Ok, so I alluded to it in a previous post and I figured its worth making a post to explain my new living situation.
About a year ago, I was living in another city than the one my children live in. During Covid, so about seven-ish years ago, my employment situation got a little dicey and I needed to fall back on groundling-employment options that were a lot more available in the larger city nearby. The small town on Vancouver Island that we had settled in pre-divorce was about an hour and a half driving time from Victoria. Victoria being the capital city of BC and with a population of about 300,000 people, the largest city by far on Vancouver Island. There were a few other reasons for making the change that I'll keep to myself, but suffice to say at the time of the decision it made a lot of sense.
Over the last year or so though, things were getting harder in terms of finding enough time for the kids, particularly with one of them in the midst of adolescence and my job having me away from home so much. With the kids in school this meant that I had to schlep them back and forth every weekend when I was home. It was quickly becoming obvious that I needed to be closer so that I could have time with them during the school week and not just weekends. Depending on my schedule, I might only get two weekends a month and if the gods really did frown upon me, there were months when I only got one.
So, the search began for a suitable living space in their town.
Like most areas of Canada, particularly post-covid, inflation and housing needs for a swelling population are an issue. Coupled by the inherent challenges of living on an island, it hadn't missed us in the housing crisis department. The same small apartment that I had previously rented in that town, only three years previously had now doubled in price. Yes, doubled.
Yes, I did enquire to my ex landlord about renting the same apartment I had moved out of, haha.
I'm not a huge fan of apartment life either, really. Not that I felt like I had a lot of options financially, but I didn't really relish the idea of living in an apartment again. The space needs of my kids was growing as well and it felt like the size of apartment I would need, in addition to the fact it would sit empty for half of every month, made the apartment hunt more than a little depressing.
I started to look around at other options that might make the move slightly less painful. Initially, I thought that a sailboat might not be a bad idea. I had met a few people that lived on boats and there were more than a few of the them at my company that did just that. It fit the bill as far as unique and enjoyable and the kind of thing that I always thought would be pretty cool. The further I looked into it though, the more the realities started to look a little less cool. Moorages that allowed live-aboard privileges were in very short supply, with wait lists in the multi-year range. Most of the local marinas that would be close enough for me were either full or didn't allow live-aboard parking. Some people I talked to alluded to " sneak-aboard " living, but with young kids I doubted being able to pull off that level of discretion.
Then there was the space issue. Sailboats are small and space for everything was at a premium. No storage, cramped quarters and compromises in every part of your daily life. Being rocked to sleep by the waves sounded nice, but the reality wasn't quite there the more I talked to people about their experience.
Boats weren't cheap either. I talked to a few people about renting, but those were in short supply as well and I never did really find anything that really struck me as workable. The idea of having all of your worldly belongings balanced over top of a medium that would destroy them all completely in twenty minutes flat in the event of an accident while you were on the other side of the world wasn't all that comforting either.
So, I switched gears and started to look into RV living. Lots of people in my area were doing it and it seemed like it could tick a few boxes in having a space I could enjoy within the budget that I had. After looking at a lot of different options, I eventually concluded that, like the sailboat idea, the romance of the idea didn't quite match up to the reality. Most RVs are built to be light-weight, for towing or driving, depending on the type of RV. This meant most of the interior fixings were plastic, and made specifically for that model of RV. That equates to expensive parts and repairs, as well as everything being plastic, flimsy and not really built for long term habitation. Like the sailboats as well, very little storage and the places that it seemed were available for legal permanent residence in an RV seemed to be trailer park like existences. Not really what I was looking for.
One thing I did find interesting in the RV world was the economics of buying a portable home. Disclaimer, I have never purchased an RV, nor lived in one, sort of, but this was my experience, take it as you will.
Like a traditional home it was actually possible to purchase an RV brand new, off the lot, with a 25 year amortized " mortgage ". Suddenly the 100,000 dollar, no holds barred " luxury " glamping mobile, or alternative housing, had a monthly price tag that looked really tempting and affordable. Roughly 600 bucks a month.
Yes, you still had to add rental cost for the parking spot, insurance, utilities, blah blah blah.
So lets say your monthly cost was in the ballpark of 2000 bucks a month. Still sounds kinda do able right? I mean, for 100K, you get a LOT of RV. Thats a big unit, brand new, modern appliances, top shelf.
But its a trap!
These things are really not designed for full time occupancy, they simply wont hold up to that kind of wear and tear. There is no land to appreciate in value, only a mechanical asset that only depreciates. And boy howdy do they depreciate. 10 years later, that thing is destroyed, or being held together by near constant maintenance of the pricey variety. Couple of spicy Wet Coast winters with an undiscovered roof leak and that thing is practically worthless. With your 25 year mortgage having 75% of its principal still intact. Gulp.
Even with folks buying them for true Recreational use, I still struggle with the steep depreciation of RVs in general. I suppose if you have oil-field cash burning a hole in your pocket, toys are toys, but I feel like anyone who actually goes to the trouble of crunching the numbers, should run, not walk away from them. If " crunching numbers " is something your financial situation has no need for, sure, ok.
During my search and research of RVs however, I kind of stumbled onto something that I had always imagined as a kid. What about living in converted Bus? I literally used to dream of living in a bus when I was a kid. In my juvenile dreams, it was a graphitied, splatter-painted school bus that I would travel the world in, but surely there were options slightly more realistic?
Sure enough, there was, is, are options for that sort of thing. I know that for sure, because I now live in a Bus!
Behold, “ Gigantus, Destroyer of Cities. " ( Named by my youngest child )
Here’s a bit of a virtual tour of my Home.
Some people who have converted busses take the original air-powered door off and replace it with a standard hinged home door. I find the stock door to be quite usueable.
When you enter, it’s four steps up into the front of the bus. Over the front entrance area, there is a large curtain on rails that can block off the whole front window. In the summer, you get a ton of sunshine through the front windows, so the curtain is a minimum for blocking some of the unwanted heat. The light is nice, but the heat is the enemy. In the summer I put up reflective foil, bubble wrap panels in the window with Velcro as well to keep the heat down. In the winter the natural light and views are nice.
Stepping into the bus, you are now in the Living Room, with a couch along one wall and two recliner swivel chairs and a small fold-out table on the opposite side.
The couch folds down into an additional twin bed, if desired, and the base of the couch is actually the giant fresh-water holding tank.
Stepping further down is the kitchen area. A standard apartment sized fridge and counter space / drawers on one side and the stove-top, sink and toaster oven on the other side.
Hot water heat is a propane on-demand, as is the shower. The shower is right at the edge of the on-demand heaters capabilities. You can get unlimited hot water, but you can’t go full blast with the water pressure, but almost. The stove top burners are also plumbed into the same propane bottle as the hot water heater. The propane bottle lives in the basement luggage bay and honestly in a year of full time use of the stove and hot water, I’ve changed the bottle once. Roughly 75 bucks to fill.
After the kitchen, down the hall is the kids bunk beds on one side, complete with a small desk, closet and clothing drawers, with the shower “ room “ on the opposite side.
The shower room is completely tiled, with shower heads and wands at both end of the shower room. Technically room for two people to shower at once, but a very comfortable and roomy shower for one. The windows of the bus are heavily tinted, so as long as its not dark outside, you can shower with the windows blinds open and its a very pleasant “ outdoor “ experience.
After the shower room is the bathroom, complete with an RV toilet, vanity sink and mirror and a Bidet
( amaze amaze amaze! )
At the back of the bus is the bedroom. It has two twin beds that are built on top of rolling, hinged storage compartments. The beds tilt up on hydraulic rams, allowing a huge amount of storage beneath each bed. Since the beds are wheeeled, they can be pushed together and “ attached “ to make a large king size bed. The only problem with the king size bed is that now you have two narrow aisles on the sides of the bed, which isn’t very convenient. When the beds are apart, the wide aisle down the middle is much more practical. Since it’s usually just me sleeping back there, the beds usually stay apart.
In the bedroom is also a desk with drawers underneath and a full size combo washer/dryer as well as a closest and a couple bookshelves along the back wall.
In the bedroom in the back is also the roof hatch to get up top on the roof, where the solar panels are.
Along both sides of the bus, three of the large windows on each side are actually the busses original Emergency Escape Windows. The large windows are hinged at the top and are designed to “ butterfly “ open for emergency egress. The three windows on the right side ( passenger side ) of the bus, I like to open up to get a nice breeze into the bus on a cool day to air it out. In the bathroom ceiling as well is a very powerful vent fan as well, so air movement in or out of the bus isn’t an issue.
The more I researched the options for a Bus as a residence, the more I liked it.
Busses are built for hauling people around, so they are typically very over-powered compared to your average RV. Fuel economy isn't as much a selling factor for a commercial bus than it is for your average RV. Huge diesel engines to pull 50 or so people and all their gear up and over the mountains or across the plains.
Commercially made Recreational Vehicle Busses are available, right from the factory, kitted out as mobile living spaces. These are mostly on the very very high end of cost though. Think Rock Star tour bus or Gazillionaire vacation toys. Out the factory door, brand new, these units are close to a million dollars, I kid you not. That was definitely not in my budget, so much of my search was more in the area of commercial busses that had been " converted " by someone. Sold and operated as a people-hauler and then eventually, lovingly and at significant cost in time and effort, made into living quarters.
The range of quality on some of these units was pretty wide though. Some of the were pretty rustic, with the builders having a lot more dreams than they had skill in their construction. Plywood windows, house doors shoe horned onto old school busses, wood stove chimneys poking though holes carved into roofs. School busses hacked with raised roofs and " custom " engineering.
There also weren't a ton of them out there on the market. Lots of units for sale in the US, but the import process was discouraging, to say the least. From the few examples I found online of people bringing them up from the states into Canada were very time and money intensive. Time I had, money not so much.
In my search, I came across a youtube video of a guy who had done the conversion himself on a 1992 Prevost charter Bus. I haven't had a lot of luck in inserting videos onto the blog, but if it appears below, that means I figured it out.
Long story short, JM, who built the bus, had bought it with the intention of using it as both a touring machine for a year or two of travel and then parking it on a piece of land he had purchased and would live in it while he built his traditional home. He was a homebuilder by trade and did a very nice job on the conversion and the interior fixtures as a result. It had to be fairly self sufficient as well as the property he was intending to build on was bare land, without any services.
Thus, it has a solar power system with a 3000 Watt inverter and 800W of solar panels affixed to the roof. It also has a water filtration and storage system where you can pull water into the on-board tank, filtering it in while you load and filtering again when you need it. It has a decent amount of both fresh water, grey water and black water storage as well.
For heating, it relies mostly on a Diesel Heater, installed under one of the kitchen cabinets, drawing fuel from a tank " downstairs " in one of the luggage bays. The Bus has a great HVAC line for its on-board heating system, which uses hot engine coolant to warm the cabin and pipes it along each wall and up under each window. I know his intention was to use that line for the heating system he installed, but for wahtever reason, he didnt end up using it. Instead, there is a simple line of PVC pipe that runs from the diesel heater, along one side of the interior, to pipe that hot air into the living room, the bathroom and finally the back bedroom.
After living in the Bus for a year and all four seasons, I've learned a fair bit about the challenges of using this type of structure as a dwelling.
First, this bus, like most of them, is all window. The large windows run down each side of the structure, making all of the " walls ", not walls, but window. Kind of like a greenhouse. actually, not kind of, more like EXACTLY like a greenhouse. In the wintertime, when I'm trying to keep it warm inside, this is a blessing. As soon as the sun comes up, so do the window blinds and you can warm up the interior with free solar heating. Well, nothing is free I suppose, the cost is just deferred till the summertime, when the heat is paid back. The abundance of windows do make for a very nice living space though, depending on where you are parked. Luckily, I managed to find a great spot on the back of a rural property where I am surrounded on 3 sides by trees and tucked out of the way of the property owner and their spaces.
The Diesel heater is fairly effective at warming up the bus, its forced air heat running at max setting will warm the bus up from 0c to a comfy 19-20 in about a half hour. It has a fancy remote control with all kinds of timers and settings, but its of Chinese Origin and the manuals are not easy to decode, so I run it cave man style. I turn it on, on MAX, then turn it down to medium if I'm going to run it for an extended period of time. The cost to run it isn't all that efficient though. I can fill the tank with about 40L of Diesel, or about 10 Gallons, that costs about 80 dollars in CAD. That will run for about two weeks with fairly heavy usage in the winter.
Where I live, we generate most of our electricity using Hydro Electric power. The massive investments in building Dams and generating equipment were made generations ago and as a result, we have some of the lowest cost electricity on the continent. I went ahead and bought two little oil-filled radiator heaters for about a hundred bucks each and they are significantly less expensive to use for heat than the Diesel Heater. On a cold winters morning, I can crank everything up in the morning and be toasty warm in about 20-30 minutes. The electric heaters doing the work of keeping it warm for the rest of the day, quite efficiently. I did some reading on the choice of electric forced air vs electric radiators and came to the conclusion that radiators were the way to go, more from a safety standpoint then anything else. Most of the sources I came across recommended radiant electric heat for all-day use vs forced air.
My electric bill using electric heaters costs me about 60 bucks a month vs the 160 I would spend on Diesel if I went with the diesel heater alone. The diesel heater also needs a fairly skookum fan to push that hot air to all corners of the bus, so the quiet of the electric radiators is nice too.
I don't know for sure how much insulation was put into the walls, such as they are, during the construction of the bus, but I don't think there was very much if I had to guess. On a winters day, with the interior heated up, I can see the outlines of the bus structure on the exterior fiberglass of the bus, leading me to think there's not much in the walls to separate the warmth inside from exposure to the cold exterior walls. Its difficult to insulate a window and a couple extra inches of " wall" that would be necessary to hold insulation would be a significant loss in interior space, so I can understand the challenge someone faces on building something like this.
That's the winter challenge, and that's the easy part.
In the summer, the greenhouse effect is even quicker and harder to combat. There is a large built-in air conditioner in the back bedroom that is probably around 15K BTU, which should be enough to cool the square footage of the living space. The problem, I think, is that the living space is arranged in a long narrow space as opposed to a square, such as you would find in a typical home. Thus, you might condition the air nicely at one end of the space, but struggle to treat the air and heat build up at the other end. I have a large ventilation fan built into the roof of the bathroom to move air out of the Bus, as well as a stand-up box fan I bought that sits in the hallway in the middle, to move that air around. It still doesn't quite do it though. The back bedroom where the main air conditioner lives, can be comfortably refrigerated, but that cold air doesn't quite make it to the main living space up front. If you close the bedroom door, the bedroom can be cooled very quickly. Even with the vent fan and box fan on and doing their best to move that air around, it still stays pretty warm up front though.
It didn't take me very long last summer to realize this and that it wasn't going to be very comfortable unless I came up with something else, so I added more air conditioning capacity. I bought one of the stand-up, portable A/C's and made a temporary home for it one the drivers seat of the Bus. I got a little wooden board that can sit on the seat itself and make a flat, weight-supporting platform out of the drivers seat and took apart a little window to make an exhaust port. With the extra AC working on the air up front, and the big AC working in the back, I can usually keep up with the heat, but just barely. On a 30 degree day, with the sun shining directly on the bus all the AC's on and the window blinds drawn, I can maintain 23-25 degrees inside. Just barely. I didn't get a chance last year to test it out against a 40 degree day, but my suspicion is that it would be a struggle. Luckily in this part of Canada, we don't get a ton of those days.
As I write this, its, 7AM on May 21st, and the sun is out. It went down to 12? 13? degrees last night and I routinely turn all the heaters off overnight in those temperatures. It gets chilly in the morning, so I'll run the diesel heater for an hour or so to take the chill off and bring the inside up to about 18 degrees before I shut it down for the day. The trick of course, is to let it stay cool enough that I don't have to fight it in an hour or two when the sun starts to warm it up inside, but not too cold as to not enjoy plodding around inside without a sweater on.
Ok, so that's one of the challenges in using an unconventional structure for a living space.
Another part is where to park the thing. When I first started looking at this as an option, I had a look around to see where I could put it, and what the going rate was for renting out a place to park. Ideally, it would be a spot that had access to utility hook ups. While it is built for somewhat " off grid " capability, those capabilities come with some pretty big compromises and effort required to deal with water and waste in particular. So, a spot that already had the hookups necessary for sewage water discharge, fresh water supply and pressure as well as access to electricity.
Most of the spots I found when I was looking at RV's in general, were basically trailer parks. Not what I was really looking for. Most of the trailer park communities were geared towards the economy of living in mobile homes or RV's as opposed to the novelty or alternative lifestyle. That meant not only were you living cheek to cheek with your neighbor, your neighbors might be folks who had no other options for housing than the cheap housing that a trailer, RV or mobile home might represent.
Alright, I'll stop dancing around it, I didn't really want to live with the Poors....eww.
That might sound a little harsh, but there's some truth in there and I could spend an hour talking about how it didn't make me a bad person for not wanting it live in that demographic, but it is what it is.
What I really wanted, was a rural space, access to utilities and some room. Unfortunately, the local zoning bylaws were written to protect the investment in private property that land owners had made in their purchases. I perused the classified ads that I could find online to see what the going rate for a serviced lot on a private acreage would be and found that there really wasnt a lot out there. Or at least it seemed like there wasnt a lot out there. Truth is, there were tons of people looking to rent out portions of their properties , they just couldn't advertise it and draw attention to their illegal setups. If you had a rural property, putting in a serviced lot or two for RV or Tiny Home living made a ton of sense, it just wasnt legally allowed. The few ads that I did find, put me in contact with enough homeowners that I had access to the word-of-mouth network of their neighbours and friends who were doing just that.
In the end, I found a ton of places that had made an investment in running sewer, electrical and water hookups out to various corners of their acreage properties. One place I found had a literal trailer park in their back-40. 5 RV's all lined up side by side. Out of view of the road, with gated access to the property and their was no reason for the local bylaw officer to ever know what was going on. She wanted 1000 bucks a month for a spot, so thats 5,000 dollars a month towards her mortgage for the property. Not bad.
I looked at a few, but once I found the space I'm currently in, it was a no-brainer. 12 minute drive to the kids and their schools, 10 minutes from the grocery store. Secluded in the back corner of their heavily gardened property. A nice gravel pad for parking the Bus on, with power, water and sewer hookups, for about 900 a month, with power metered on top of that.
One thing that I thought was going to be a challenge, storage, turned out to be a non-issue. At least with this particular bus-build, anyway. JM had left the interior luggage racks above the seats mostly intact. Aside from removing a few over the bathroom, shower room and bunk bed area, it had over head storage running the entire length of the living room, kitchen and bedroom areas. Perfect built in cabinets. Coupled with the generous storage in the " basement " with the luggage bays, storage isnt an issue at all. In fact after a year of living in it, I still have overhead storage space inside that I don't even use.
For me personally, the space provided in a 40 foot bus was perfect. I don’t feel cramped, nor do I feel like I have extra, unused space going to waste. I pretty much use every square inch of the bus. Even when I lived in a small one-bedroom apartment, there were spaces that I didn’t really use. A closet that was full of long term storage and only got opened once every couple of months. A kitchen cabinet full of less-used kitchen appliances that only saw action on Thanksgiving or Christmas meal baking. Living in the bus space has forced me to take a more pragmatic view towards accumulating goods that I don’t really need. Sure, an air-fryer might be nice to have, but if I have to dedicate the space to storing it for the 3 times a year that I used it, it didn’t make as much sense.
Having the outdoor space around the bus is one of the biggest advantages for me. I can sit outside in the forest and watch the birds. I don’t have neighbors above or below me, no tip toeing around to not set off Mrs Johnson or worrying about the weekend parties of the young kids down the hall. My space in particular backs onto a green space the has a creek running through it, so its a bit of a rural highway for the local Bears, Deer, Elk and occasionally a Cougar.
The flexibility and options of a home on wheels is a nice insurance policy as well. If things change in my domestic situation with the kids, or the local bylaws, I can pick up and move if I had to. Likewise for Zombie Apocalypse.
During the purchase of the bus however, there was one small catch. It seems to have developed a fairly significant mechanical issue with its transmission. A cursory diagnosis by a local shop during the pre-purchase had them advising that a a new Transmission was more than likely in its future. As it stands now, it isn’t able to shift into 4th or 5th gear reliably. I moved it a couple hundred kilometers to its current parking space, under its own power, just limiting to 3rd gear speeds at maximum ( about 80km/h ). So it’s still mobile, just not really able to do any touring until it’s repaired. This did bring the price down a bit to account for the eventual transmission replacement, which is NOT cheap for a unit like this. Since I don’t really have any plans to do any touring with it anytime soon, it’s not a huge deal for me. Quite frankly, if it simply lived out its life as a semi-mobile tiny-home, it wouldn’t really affect my plans.
I’ve been working on getting the gravel “ pad “ that bus sits on and the surrounding dirt into a bit of a “ lawn “. Since I am away from home for 2 weeks a month and honestly, don’t really want to be bothered with lawn-care, I’ve been trying to get a bit of a ground cover just to add some green. I’ve been reading about Clover and Micro Clover as an alternative to grass, so I threw down a couple bags of Micro Clover last summer when I first moved onto this spot. It took a fair bit of watering to get the clover to take, and we go into fairly restrictive water use rules around mid summer. Although the package assured me that the amount of seed I put down for the size of the lawn should have sufficient, it’s still a little on the patchy side after a year. Whether that is a result of inconsistent watering leading to a low germination rate or what, I’m not 100% sure. I also read that “ micro clover “ reverts to normal-clover after a couple of years, so this spring I threw down a bunch of regular clover seeds. The clover is suppose to be low-to-no maintenance as far as mowing, but also requires little water. I’m not really interested in dedicating a lot of resources, both time, money and water, into maintaining a decorative lawn. However, its much more pleasant sitting outside in a green space rather than a dirt patch. Also, the little rabbits we have sure seem to enjoy the clover. Might explain the patchy clover s well I suppose, haha.
These pictures are last summer and this spring, so you can see the difference. I’ve been away from home for the past two months on a training course, and I put down a significant amount of regular-clover seeds before I went away. My landlord also put up an auto timer sprinkler for me, so I am quite curious as to the results when I get back. I’l try and remember to one back here and throw a pic up to see if it’s dramatically different.
Lots of people have found the fact that I live in a bus to be quite interesting and I honestly enjoy the oddity of it as well. I think most people assume it’s some kind of sketchy budget housing solution but honestly, its fairly high end living, in my opinion.
At the end of the day, when I look at it from a purely financial aspect, I spend pretty much the same amount every month as I would on an apartment. Between the financing of the purchase price, the pad rent, utilities, the cash flow is about the same. I get the added benefit of a pleasant rural setting, privacy and a small amount of equity in the residual value of the bus itself, if I ever decide to move and/or sell it. That gain in equity is offset by the liability of maintenance and repair, but in the end, with the quality of life I get for me personally, I feel like its a much better option than what the equivalent purchasing power would get me in apartment living and all the compromises in quality of life.
And yeah, I enjoy telling people that I live in a van, down by the river.




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